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Former good article nomineeMunich massacre was a good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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On this day...Facts from this article were featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "On this day..." column on September 5, 2005, September 5, 2006, September 5, 2007, September 5, 2008, September 5, 2009, September 5, 2010, and September 5, 2011.
Current status: Former good article nominee


Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 29 November 2024

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In the Ultimatum section of Ultimatum, negotiations and first rescue effort, last line of fourth paragraph, change "Minister of Defence" to "Minister of Defense" ParkerSolar (talk) 00:08, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: both are correct and no valid reason given for the proposed change. M.Bitton (talk) 01:35, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Introduction is misleading

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The Introduction says that the Olympians who were held hostage were "later killed," but does not say by whom. This reads like an attempt to deflect accountability. The introduction should be edited to read "and took nine others hostage and later killed them during a failed rescue attempt."

Fielding99 (talk) 02:49, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Rephrased for better clarity. Nightsturm (talk) 13:56, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect death listed

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In the AFTERMATH section "Effect on the Games" it says quote: "...Carmel Eliash. During the memorial service, Eliash collapsed and died of a heart attack." After reading Carmel's page I discovered he survived this heart attack and was flown back to Israel, but died of a different heart attack the following year at a different unrelated ceremony. 76.139.178.134 (talk) 15:45, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Possible Wilfried Böse involvement

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In this article Wolfgang Kraushaar says “There is serious information that Böse also supported the terrorists of the Black September in the Olympic attacks,” but without providing any details. Certainly worth mentioning if true. Do any German-speakers know more? Prezbo (talk) 09:41, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Rewrite Needed

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Someone needs to rewrite this article like they weren’t narrating a movie. Kinglouie0805 (talk) 04:14, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to roll up your sleeves and get editing. After all, it's a collaborative platform, not just a place to critique from the sidelines. Nightsturm (talk) 13:22, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 24 February 2025

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French Philosopher and famed existentialist John Paul Sartre wrote about the attack in an article titled "About Munich" in October of 1972 for French Newspaper La Cause du peuple. Sartre stated he generally believed that violence is Palestinians' only tool (due to their oppression and poverty) to Israel’s purposeful prevention of a solution for their conflict. Sartre thought it is was hypocritical for French socialists and the press to support freedom for Algeria but to pass judgment on the Palestinian's attempts at liberation, like the attack in Munich, especially without acknowledging Palestinian death at the hands of Israel. Sartre supposed the members of Black September wanted to attack at the Olympics to make it unignorable by the UN. With that, the Israeli government's response, or lack of response would also receive the world's spotlight. Sartre concluded that the world does not care about either Israelis or Palestinians, but disrupting the Olympics made the event uncomfortable by its proximity to the western world, instead of in the Middle East. To him, this event ultimately shows the world Palestinian despair, yet conviction. 9grh940fenj (talk) 19:37, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sources: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/sartre/
Links to an external site.
https://www.jstor.org/stable/23511144 9grh940fenj (talk) 19:39, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Are you requesting this text be added in its entirety? also, where in the article should it go? Cannolis (talk) 20:06, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Insert the written section after international reactions. I was hoping to add more information to the reactions section because it is only world leaders. I hope to have it added in its entirety. I attached my sources in the reply above but I am unsure of formatting while submitting an edit request. 9grh940fenj (talk) 20:37, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

individual Reactions

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French Philosopher and famed existentialist John Paul Sartre wrote about the attack in an article titled "About Munich" in October of 1972 for French Newspaper La Cause du peuple.[1] Sartre stated he generally believed that violence is Palestinians' only tool (due to their oppression and poverty) to Israel’s purposeful prevention of a solution for their conflict. Sartre thought it is was hypocritical for French socialists and the press to support freedom for Algeria but to pass judgment on the Palestinian's attempts at liberation, like the attack in Munich, especially without acknowledging Palestinian death at the hands of Israel. Sartre supposed the members of Black September wanted to attack at the Olympics to make it unignorable by the UN. With that, the Israeli government's response, or lack of response would also receive the world's spotlight. Sartre concluded that the world does not care about either Israelis or Palestinians, but disrupting the Olympics made the event uncomfortable by its proximity to the western world, instead of in the Middle East. To him, this event ultimately shows the world Palestinian despair, yet conviction 9grh940fenj (talk) 15:04, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Bowman, Elizabeth; Sartre, John Paul (2003). "Satre on Munich 1972". Sartre Studies International. 9 (2): 5. {{cite journal}}: More than one of |pages= and |page= specified (help)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 27 February 2025

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Please change organisation to organization 2601:300:4980:8130:D2F1:6F6:AB8C:B149 (talk) 05:33, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done. This article uses British English so that spelling is appropriate. See MOS:ENGVAR. CWenger (^@) 15:25, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hostage-taker or terrorist?

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can this be updated to refer to the ‘hostage-takers’ as terrorists? 97.113.59.47 (talk) 04:14, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There does not appear to be a good reason to do that. Firstly, there is WP:TERRORIST, and secondly, the string 'hostage-taker' occurs 35 times compared to the string 'terrorist', which appears 60 times. Sean.hoyland (talk) 04:22, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Why not use one or the other? Hostage taker doesn’t convoy the depth of the actions. They didn’t just take hostages. They terrorized both the victims, the other athletes and the world. It’s like calling the 9/11 perpetrators “bad pilots”. 97.113.59.47 (talk) 18:52, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hostage taker is a neutral or descriptive term focusing solely on the act of taking hostages. It does not inherently convey a political, ideological, or moral stance but instead emphasizes the method used in the attack.
Even militant suggests an armed individual engaged in conflict, often with a political or ideological motivation. While it acknowledges that the perpetrators were part of an organized group, it does not inherently imply illegitimacy or wrongdoing. Some may view it as a more neutral or less emotionally charged term.
Terrorist explicitly conveys the idea that the perpetrators used violence to instill fear and achieve political ends. This term labels the attackers as individuals who deliberately targeted civilians for political purposes. 97.113.59.47 (talk) 18:56, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 8 March 2025

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Article states that "During the memorial service, Eliash collapsed and died of a heart attack." This is incorrect. Carmel Eliash had a heart attack during the service but he did not die. He did, however, die the following year during a different event in Israel. 2003:DD:2F10:1D87:208C:2D32:FD55:F3A7 (talk) 22:28, 8 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Fixed. 22:54, 8 March 2025 (UTC)

"West German neo-Nazis provided logistical assistance to the group"

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The claim very early in the article is that "West German neo-Nazis provided logistical assistance to the group."

That is a deliberate attempt to mislead readers.

There were no neo-Nazis involved in the planning and execution of the attack. The linked Spiegel article tries hard to convince its readers that neo-Nazis were somehow involved and says "...is it now necessary to consider the story ... in a new light? Yes at least in part." But whenever it becomes more concrete, they write things like "...it is still unclear today whether..." or "The question remains unanswered to this day.".

All they do is create a smoke-screen with the aim of taking the leftists (Red Army Faction, RAF) out of the equation, who strongly sympathized with the attackers and publicly welcomed the attack.

But in any case, the truth is that: "Black September didn't need any German logistic assistance." Which they do in fact write. But only to make sure no-one will ask for potential connections to the Red Army Faction.

A key conclusion of the article is very revealing...: "Until now, many experts assumed that it was left-wing extremists who had had ties to Black September, helping the terrorists find places to stay in Munich, for example. ... But according to the released documents, such statements must now be treated as myths."

- Evidently, all the journalists at Spiegel cared about is to take potential blame away from their RAF friends. 138.246.3.57 (talk) 22:01, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]